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gerkenstein's avatar

Maybe they should have installed a sprinkler system?

Billy's avatar

No, obviously I haven’t read the whole thing yet.

Yes, obviously I’m restacking it. I’m going to read it but I am so tired rn

I WILL GET TO IT YES

Karl Shields's avatar

Very fine read but I am skeptical that the sit down would produce the outcome predicted there. The sub that services the leased forklifts would have then running in a couple hours. Duplicate keys or simply hotwired. Pull in some more cooperative, I.e. desperate, workers and get things running again. Organizing is the only way, and regulations/laws regarding wages and benefits.

Explorer's avatar

Karl: You are looking at this through the lens of a Hollywood heist movie. A standard industrial forklift weighs between 9,000 and 10,000 pounds. You don't just "hotwire" twenty of them parked horizontally across narrow, optimized loading bays. Standard tow trucks cannot maneuver inside a warehouse. You would need specialized heavy wreckers, which cannot fit through the bay doors while the forklifts are blocking them.

​Furthermore, you cannot just pull random "desperate workers" off the street to operate heavy machinery in a hyper-velocity Just-In-Time facility. That is an instant, catastrophic insurance liability. And waiting for "regulations/laws" to save you is exactly what the Rust wants you to do. You are asking the warden to build you a slightly more comfortable cell.

Beth Carter's avatar

That's why the only way to stop the supply is a sustained National Strike. Shut the entire country down, and the workers (all of them) run on alternate lines of community support--like what is happening in Minneapolis/St. Paul. The success of doing so is easily displayed by the Civil Rights movement in the Deep South. It worked against the entrenched KKK inside the law enforcement apparatus. It will work.

Explorer's avatar

You have the right spirit, but the wrong scale. A "Sustained National Strike" is a logistical fantasy. The second you try to mobilize 150 million people, the Rust will deploy Layer 2 tribalism—they will turn it into a Left vs. Right political war, and the strike will fracture in days.

​The entire point of the Flint Blueprint is Asymmetric Chokepoint Targeting. You do not need millions of people to shut down the country. You only need a high-trust Phalanx of 20 people occupying the exact right bottleneck to freeze $156 million in capital.

​You don't need a national army. You just need to know where the machine's off-switch is.

Beth Carter's avatar

There's a chokepoint in every state. The logistics would be challenging to be sure, but it's no fantasy. With the chokepoints identified, the specific employees engaged, the rest of the state would be organized as support for the worker's families, groundswell security, and tactical reconnaissance, each with teams in rotation. Then there will have to be those who do the documentation, the record keepers. Neighborhoods would have to be activated in the same way, watching each other's backs and providing real-time support.

Explorer's avatar

Look at what you just did. In your first comment, you were looking at a massive, impossible national shutdown. Ten minutes later, you mapped out the exact, granular supply lines required to keep a localized Phalanx alive: "Support for the worker's families, groundswell security, record keepers."

​You just perfectly described the 1936 Flint Strike's Women's Emergency Brigade. They didn't occupy the plant; they formed the unbreakable community perimeter that kept the occupiers fed, funded, and protected from the police so the chokepoint wouldn't fall.

​This isn't AI gibberish, and it isn't fantasy. You just reverse-engineered a Constructed Miracle in real-time.

​The Rust wants us waiting for 150 million people to magically wake up and agree on everything. We don't need them to. We only need a few dozen who actually know how to hold a chokepoint, and a local community that refuses to let them starve.

Beth Carter's avatar

9 million people (apprx) came out for No King protest. The rest of the country, or a large part of it, is waiting for *some*body to do *some*thing. It's a very large possibility that once the National Strike starts and local see how it works in real time (if it's done well), they'll be all in. They're just too tired and too stressed to think about how to pull these things off. They don't have Explorer's brain to work these things out cause they've got two kids fighting in the back room, laundry that needs folding, a partner who's depressed, budgets stretched to the limit, a dog to brush, a cat to wash, and a birthday party to plan next week after the oldest kid wins the science fair two days from now (a small explosion goes off downstairs, and the smell of carbon comes wafting up from the stair well). Well, maybe not on that last one. If folks like this see a real, organized, mentally stable group that isn't drooling for a fight keep that family safe without asking, provide material support because society is falling apart right now, be emotionally accessible, and display clarity and discernment in the moment without having to go to a professional spokesperson for an explainer, it's highly *probable* they'll get on board. Their own kids might talk them into it.

Sandra Trimble's avatar

So clearly describes what everyday life for working people trying to take care of their family’s needs!

Beth Carter's avatar

(Stupid interloper fucking with me. My last comment went elsewhere.) What is certain, and I think this is what you're saying: No one has a magic wand that's going to be waved and suddenly everyone is in accord. No, that ain't happenin'.

Alexandra Coates's avatar

No wonder industry has been mechanizing and robotizing and now deploying AI. It may be more expensive but they believe it won't organize.

Kalle Pihlajasaari's avatar

Yep, China is already building factories that will manufacture 100'000+ humanoid robots per year, similar are in planning in the West. Does not sound like much but the robots can be used to build more robots.

Also while a robot is not able to do all human tasks it can do specific tasks better and cheaper than a human. The 20 striking forklift drivers would be replaced by robots. The forklifts would be started by locksmiths in a hour or two even if spare keys were not available. The new forklifts are started with keycards that will be revoked and issued to new humanoid robots if a similar attempt is made and the revolution will be short.

While I too am a great proponent of finding pivot points of influence to resist this example is dated and no longer viable.

It is very likely though that AI assisted hacking will enable the shutting down of critical digital resources faster than they can be protected with updates before long. If a system is devoid of humans for fear of giving them control it becomes vulnerable to single point of failure or capture. A human needs to visit Epstein island to be properly captured while an AI factory management system just needs a single zero day vulnerability to be completely erased.

Beth Carter's avatar

Suggestion: Each initial time you refer to a previous article, make that mention a link. If you're already doing that and I missed it, sorry. I'm just seeing that you're referring to set definitions based on previous discussion of the Prison, and new folks might be quizzical yet too overwhelmed to seek it out.

Loretta's avatar

This is very thought giving. We know there is a reason for robot labor to replace the worker/laborer. We know the greed of elite. We also know the very reason for creating generations of zombie like mind control electronic addicts, was for the purpose of blanking minds to think rationally and problem solve. Or even create any damn thing ever again.

So the moral of this very well written story, (loved it and wish it meant anything for a good result at all) we are pretty much screwed and until the brain dead awaken, "tuff shit".

Great understanding, but really don't have a clue as to any kind of a solution. Just awareness. Whoever came up with the Ford plant forklift shut-down was a genius. We don't have what we had in that day and time. Like a loop, huh. I feel badly for minimum wagers. I feel badly for the future of it all.

Explorer's avatar

Loretta, I hear the exhaustion in this, and you are completely justified in feeling it. The system is explicitly designed to make us feel like there is no way out. But I want you to look closely at the second half of the story again. That 20-forklift shutdown in Ontario isn't a historical event from Ford—it is a modern tactical blueprint I wrote for right now.

​The auto workers in Flint, Michigan showed us the physics of it back in 1936, but the Ontario scenario is the exact mechanism of how we win today. We aren't screwed, and we don't have to just accept it or burn the warehouse down. We just have to remember that while they might own the corporate ledger, we are the ones physically sitting on the 9,000-pound machines. We hold the keys. Hang in there.

Kalle Pihlajasaari's avatar

The cost of burning big piles of stuff is passed onto the consumer in the end, we pay for arson.

Loretta's avatar

Thank you. I will try.

Holly Campana's avatar

Excellent as Usual

gerkenstein's avatar

Also, this is what happens when you import and invite tens of millions of low skilled workers

Explorer's avatar

You made some funny comments but this one is just stupid lol

litoralis's avatar

But sadly its the imported workers that bear the brunt of hostility not the system importing them to drive wages lower. We have 2 build solidarity. People also need to understand theyre a class. Its so hard when ur subjected to so much propaganda and misinformation starting from school age.

gerkenstein's avatar

The system that invited them was joe biden himself. He told them to come. Promised they would be heard. He sent 3 million back without a hearing and had not much permanent to offer the other 7 million.

Somehow American leftists call that “empathy “ or “compassion “

And yep, as you said it is very sad the Democrat Party treats all minorities like cannon fodder.

America Leaks 💦's avatar

This is what happens when your last name is -stein

gerkenstein's avatar

What happens? Smart insightful comments are made? LOL. Love your racism though.

gerkenstein's avatar

that isn’t my real last name. LOL. 100 percent German blood. LOL

Jeanelle Taylor's avatar

An interesting and kind of frightening read!!!

Jeanelle Taylor's avatar

There’s no doubt that Trump is insane and if we let him continue as POTUS he will end the USA as a democratic republic and make it into a dictatorship!!! Where , he will deny the opinion of Congress and of the citizens of the USA which is all of us!!!

Sandy's avatar

Always the money no matter how it’s picked apart.

Kelly Alvin Madden's avatar

Can't or won't get a better job.

Can't or won't cut his living expenses.

But thinks the world owes him "enough to live" [as he wants to live], despite the limited value of his labor.

Where have you gone, Friedrich Nietzsche?

Explorer's avatar

You are quoting Nietzsche to defend a corporate mega-node that pays poverty wages. You claim his labor has "limited value." That labor physically moves $156 million of inventory. If his labor is so worthless, why does the entire regional supply chain shatter the second he stops doing it?

Kelly Alvin Madden's avatar

The value of his labor is so great that he and his eleven coworkers will be replaced by robots working 24/7. Amazon is there already.

Because he exposed a flaw.

“Biological machines,” as you call them, will be locked out of warehouses, except in the rare case of repairmen allowed in during the rare malfunction.

That’s the value of his labor.

Well done, you and he! You have accelerated the process!

gerkenstein's avatar

Silly guy apparently knew English. should have become a truck driver… or was he overqualified for that in California since he knows English?

MeatBall's avatar

So it doesn’t take hours to arrest the workers and take the forklift keys??!!

Bill near San Jose's avatar

So-C.E.O.Paths running the nation!

Patti's avatar

This is exactly why corporations are looking to replace us with robots!!

Estevan's avatar

No country for CEOs.

Revolution is justified.

We the People can end this tyranny tonight. Find your courage, freedom, and the ability to exercise your Rights. The actions of free men speak louder than the words of slaves. Revolution is the solution.