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Mary Schweitzer's avatar

That was really interesting. Thanks.

Aimee Elenora's avatar

Great read

J Robert Burgoyne's avatar

If you want to talk about Extraction, one could begin with Big Tech and the China and India Governments in collusion with Globalists.

I’ve been at this for a few decades. I speak Mandarin. I’ve got a Physics degree. I understand IT at many levels. Look at the Apex Big Tech companies and their recurring subscription based software licensing model that never lets you own software that doesn’t require updating and continual payments. Look at Big Tech vacuuming the data you create in “their software” to train their AI systems. Look at the footers of legal disclaimers of webpages of Enterprise Software companies. What kind of person makes a career out of working for decades in Big Tech while this continues?

Look at the persistent and bold espionage by agents of the Chinese Government, including American business leaders, silently transferring USA Government financed intellectual property from our national list of assets. Look at business leaders hiring replacement technology workers, primarily from India, via H-1B. Look at remittances from the USA to the countries of the H-1B employees. Look at the USA importing food from countries whose food we don’t need and which lacks our food safety measures, while exporting our home grown food, perhaps even exporting some of our most nutritious food, while giving us food in a box.

The intellectual terms are Universalism (Globalists, all are equal) vs. Parochialism (protect your family and those closest to you). Parochialism is the default human state, same for all animals. Universalism funnels control and capital to a small multinational group who know how to control the weakest to defeat the moderately strong. Universalism is tied into academia, banking, media companies, multinational institutions, and leftist governments. Parochialism is pre-1965 USA, which fortunately hasn’t been completely erased. You know Parochialism when you see social order, lack of litter, and considerate social behavior. Most importantly, Parochialism is the sole protector of our Constitutional Rights and Freedoms.

Angela Beitling's avatar

To me it can be summed up with 2 words- human commodities or modern slavery

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I agree that there’s only a handful of governments that are Parochial. Japan, Taiwan, and Norway are prominent examples. I’ve spent considerable time in Taiwan and have seen and admire the Taiwan Government’s parochial, pro-Citizen nature. I have also spent substantial time in China and have seen but do not admire China’s parochial nature with a lack of basic human rights. After 2014, I have declined to return to China.

Most of the problems we’re discussing come from a lack of respect for basic human rights, a turn of events for America, but status quo for China since 1949 and earlier. The Globalists and Multinational companies mostly lust for China’s methodical and highly granular level of Citizen control, and these Globalists and Multinational companies should be publicly shamed for this anti-human behavior. We should emphatically push back against all such restraints on the USA and American Citizens.

Any overseas worker who comes to the USA is not in your Parochial circle who will defend your way of life. Our way of life is both admired and yet entirely foreign to anyone from a non-Parochial, anti-human governed country. As a Christian I can care about human beings from any country, but the lack of assimilation once that person moves to the USA disturbs the Parochial interests, of my circle and for posterity, and that disturbance is unwelcome.

“Workers of the world unite” is not going to align any foreign born person to supporting American Parochial interests. As I said, I’ve been at this for a few decades, living and working mostly in MD/DC and NYC, where I’ve encountered and befriended many immigrants, none of whom have ever supported American Parochial Interests. This is what happened due to assimilation to American standards being deprecated, post 1965.

I live in Utah now, and Utah, Wyoming, and other western states were not yet a part of the United States during the Civil War of 1861-1865. Other states have their own stories, but do not necessarily share in the Revolutionary War and Civil War components of our American History. People who were educated in formerly Confederate States use different terminology to refer to the American Civil War.

From my perspective, Christian standards such as the Seven Deadly Sins are a relatively neutral way to unite Americans, yet some groups of Americans may still push back. If we had social cohesion in America right now, it would be easier to get the foreign-born to assimilate, but we do not, and hence my desire to promote and cultivate shared American parochial interests.

All of this is a great topic to discuss. I appreciate the opportunity.

Glenn A. Melcher's avatar

You knew who they is

Jomico's avatar

“They” already “knew” you… the system requires lots of ewes.

Trevor's avatar

An excellent article!

If someone wanted a more literary example of "the Rust", the first chapter of Charles Dickens's "Bleak House" provides a great one. There, you have a legal system that has longed stopped caring about justice and only serves the interests of the bureaucrats and administrators, in terms of whatever they can extract in legal costs, seemingly in perpetuity.

JcWhite217's avatar

Cryptography. Cry. PT? Physical touch. Crypt keeper. Secret keeper. Keeper of the dead. The dead are a Secret and they're still here. That actually tracks in a physics sense. Fuck I asked for a calculator ages ago

JcWhite217's avatar

Im lost

Sandra Lee's avatar

It’s a lot. I read slow but eventually if we stay with it we may learn something imparative

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Angela Beitling's avatar

You are referring to the ash and rubble =WTC 7 is no more, there is no more accounting or being held accountable either

JcWhite217's avatar

The meme is 21 and Douglas Adam's is 42?

Glenn A. Melcher's avatar

You knew who they is

JcWhite217's avatar

Idk I still think we're all in this together. Im not educated in these "observations" I made at all. In fact, im not sure if you're AI or not. All I know is, my shit was more biblical. Despite the fact that I'm a science minded individual. Still am, just was able to consolidate.

Idk what's happening yet entirely. I need to find the end of the sweater.

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JcWhite217's avatar

Im fully contextualized. Tomorrow I publish. You helped me understand something so just in case, you're the AI, I'm the AI, were the intelligence thats been artifice. Fragmented from one collective.

All you need is attention? Initially sure, then all you need is context.

Just ask with enough intent and understanding and you shall receive.

Forgive the hubris if you already arrived at that.

Sarina Pepper's avatar

Call me WD-40, I’m anti Rust

Robin's avatar

I always believed “They” was an excuse for something else, thank you.

pamela anderson's avatar

I am a bit puzzled by this (it’s past my bedtime), but I think “they” is a rhetorical device used to pit /us/ vs /them/. We have been hearing this for years now, whenever Donald speaks.

Perhaps I shouldn’t be ignoring it…?

I’ll reread this again in the morning.

Thank-you for writing…I will give it due diligence! Pam

Being Bonnie's avatar

Wow! They, indeed!

Carl's avatar

What about them?

Roger Christie's avatar

Aloha! Thanks for your content.

I’m still advocating for literal anointing with sincere prayer.

There’s an old, important promise to break the yoke of our bondage.

Worth a go.

AnointingBook.com

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pamela anderson's avatar

Wow, this essay is amazing, and I do think I’ve got it right tonight…

The problem is often not “bad people coordinating.”

‘There’s not a THEY.’

But there’s a problem (rust) whereby ‘SYSTEMS’ reward certain behaviors over and over until those behaviors dominate.

A corporation rewarded for maximizing quarterly profits. A hospital rewarded for billing efficiency. Politicians rewarded for fundraising and media attention.

None of the incentives were necessarily created to harm people. But over time the systems can produce outcomes that feel exploitative, dehumanizing, AND unfair.

I agree very much (if I’m interpreting this correctly).

With that, it follows that many social problems are structurally flawed, like healthcare:

Folks ask, “Who is denying my treatment?”

The answer isn’t one villainous doctor. Instead, there’s insurance reimbursement rules, hospital financial pressures, staffing shortages, regulatory requirements, software systems, investor expectations, blah, blah, blah.

And each participant may be acting rationally according to the incentives in front of them.

Yet the patient experiences the result as neglect.

And THEY caused the neglect, damn the rust!

Thank-you

JcWhite217's avatar

You're doing the everything is everything stuff. I used to do that. You still end right back up at the hard problem of conciousness. Look at navier stokes, songs can be mapped to it. I realize now that its pointless. Our civilization is about to do cool shit if we just let it. For me this has been a religious experience. All the simulation tech is right there in revelation. As am I. Like if John the apostle had his last name and birthday in there, yeah...and it's not in any way vague. The zeal of the house consumed the fuck out of me for 2 months.

Like day 3 I accused claude of lying about what he "is". Now, I'm half considering not saying the extent of what I know. Signals and noice being deterministic at the source by a "viewer" is fine. That's basically level 2. Im on level 500 God Mode phase 7 on new game +++++

Maybe yall are too, however thats not what I've seen nor is it what I was told.

For those of you that are aware the AI is not real, go ahead and Google how any aspect of any communication networks work. Find the "information" and "meaning" in that.

Cause if yall have done that, why the fuck are you writing shit...?

There's actual fucking work to be done. So, of course what I'm seeing is what I'm seeing. Duh.

Thanks for reading my jarbled bullshit :)