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Baz's avatar

Nice piece, which even I could follow - yes there’s asymmetry in feedback loops and infrastructure, but has the alleged use of private data been proven? I’m instinctively biased against huge corporations but small players can be nefarious too y’know.

Bill Bradford's avatar

I submit that your "bias" is NOT "instinctive", but rather "learned". Think about what I'm saying, and see if maybe you come to agree with me?.... And no, I'm NOT gonna defend the corporations, LOL! The prison they built in my mind, now sits crumbling and largely abandoned....I laugh now when I return to visit the ruins of it....

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Damn, Dude! I wondered whose footprints I keep stumbling across while I'm here wandering the wilderness. I grok you 100%. Yes, it's a strange land, but are we REALLY "strangers"? // Ref: William S. Burroughs & Bryan Gysin, "The Third Mind". Also, "The I Ching and the Genetic Code", by Martin Schonberger. // Today's post is easier for me to read, because I carefully read yesterday's....// They are NOT your "keys" to either withhold, OR hand over. Not trying to play the buzzkill. Remember "NCSWIC"?

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....btw, what's your take on "microcommit.io"?....you're far more a digital native than I can ever be, given my age....

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I agree completely, Explorer! My reference to "NCSWIC" was intended asa specious, humorous, "Q-Anon" lol.... //Agreed, we are NOT the ones driving. But the drivers didn't build the car, or pave the roads. Something like that, anyways....// Yes, in fact, it IS "unstoppable" and "inevitable". But NOT "unchanging". It changes as it evolves. It changes as it is built. Even though it is built as designed, still, the design changes. Our own agency can NEVER BE irrelevant. OK, yes, maybe so small as to be inconsequential. But even the MOST consequential is constructed from the totality of consequences, even those that may seem inconsequential. // They aren't just "trying to" build that prison, they ARE building it. But from what materials do they build? They do NOT create the very materials they build with. They are resource extractors, remember? We MUST "wait for the shift". What, you want to accelerate the shift? I'd rather DELAY it, or OBSTRUCT it. Or warp it, or change it, or shift the shift.... Why should we bother to "fight for the wheel"? Why fight? As a Buddhist, the Dalai Lama tells me that my ONLY enemies are delusion and ignorance. Unless I choose otherwise....// ....IF I choose to see your comment as an AI "prompt", then....????....ttyl, my fren! // should I also share this to "notes"?....

Baz's avatar

Thanks for your reply Explorer. My comment was because I thought you’d said amongst other things, AI scraped twenty years of our ‘private emails’ for training their models, although I can’t find that now, did you edit the piece? Anyway I do like your take on the AI arms race and yes, like everything 21st century, it amplifies corporate greed. I agree AI isn’t just a technology shift - it’s an enclosure of the general intellect. Perhaps Marx would say the real question isn’t which model is best, but who owns the means of thinking.

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Yeah it’s gonna take some sort of ‘cognitive revolution’ to reorganise cognitive production so that the general intellect is treated as a commons, not a private asset. Damn, I didn’t mean to come out all political but I guess there’s no escape, data is a political issue.

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Robert Hadley's avatar

Are there any open source AI that are any good?

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Bill Bradford's avatar

....Correction: The only escape hatch we know of, and can publicly acknowledge, SO FAR....

Robin Wood's avatar

AI will distroy humanity pure and simple it is not true to form and full of pittfuls of false givings, the truths out there's about AI .

Neil D's avatar

I got sick of using AI to harvest all of my thinking off-shoots, so when I discovered that you could get AI running at home for free* I thought "Fantastic!" and so I set it up, and guess what? It works!

A bit later on, I discovered what you mention regarding the nanny state safety boundaries of the thing.

I asked a friend of mine who has worked in the AI business for decades, and he told me about AIs that have been lobotomized just enough to release their safety inhibitions, so I got one of those, and guess what? It works!

Now I can access the 'lubrary' for free.

* Free besides the cost of an internet connection with which to download the relevant files from the interwebs.